tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24348391.post628415493820571257..comments2024-02-02T06:07:56.982+00:00Comments on LIVING THE HISTORY: Cartmel - William Marshal's Prior(it)yElizabeth Chadwickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16911841862257909703noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24348391.post-49161690489048870462015-09-07T14:04:31.538+00:002015-09-07T14:04:31.538+00:00Every time I research William Marshal we find new ...Every time I research William Marshal we find new information about him. It's amazing, all that he did.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11890323991412642493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24348391.post-84237884929706725402008-05-25T22:14:00.000+00:002008-05-25T22:14:00.000+00:00this is really useful information, especially the ...this is really useful information, especially the part about the curse as i'm revising gothic novels for an english literature exam at the moment - i'll be able to add it in to my essays. thanks!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24348391.post-35677480393010757742008-05-23T19:12:00.000+00:002008-05-23T19:12:00.000+00:00Carla, that's right. Cartmel was built on land th...Carla, that's right. Cartmel was built on land that was William's own - bestowed by Henry II. Had he married Heloise of Kendal, she would have enriched and expanded his power base considerably in the region, but Cartmel was his own.<BR/>It is interesting about the curse being written into the charter. I don't know much more about it, only what I've read in Crouch. It does raise the curious question about the Tudors though. Did the destroyers know about these curses? Were they bothered? As aforementioned Cartmel escaped because it was a Parish church and at the centre of the community. I'd not thought about the Gothic novel aspect either. It's not a reason I've come across, but then although I love reading Gothic novels, I've never really studied their Genesis!Elizabeth Chadwickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16911841862257909703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24348391.post-11046504066999054202008-05-23T18:29:00.000+00:002008-05-23T18:29:00.000+00:00Cartmel wasn't on Heloise of Kendal's land, then -...Cartmel wasn't on Heloise of Kendal's land, then - is that right? <BR/><BR/>I didn't know about the curse written into Cartmel's charter. If this was common practice when Monasteries and abbeys were founded, Thomas Cromwell's men should have been very afraid! I wonder if it could be part of the reason for abbeys being so popular in Gothic novels? - what do you think? Or is that just the romantic architecture?Carlahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11901028520813891575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24348391.post-31259128527336127452008-05-04T17:29:00.000+00:002008-05-04T17:29:00.000+00:00Fascinating stuff, Elizabeth. Was Cartmel within h...Fascinating stuff, Elizabeth. Was Cartmel within his own lands, then?Jan Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00471022034388834235noreply@blogger.com